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asdar · Nov 29, 2005, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Neither, I won't take something if it's offered. I guess the exception is that I have given stuff to guild mates before, and I got some black dye from them.

Just the same, I don't like giving things away to newcomers because I think it ruins the game. It's too easy already and if you give them a max damage weapon just out of searing what little challeng was there is gone.

Jetdoc · Nov 29, 2005, 03:31 PM // 15:31

A tip - don't give your stuff away if it is max damage/armor/energy. Sell it to someone for insanely cheap. That way they feel that they've "earned" it, and don't feel like they've been given a handout.

Kind of like the "teach to fish" argument above. They will likely take that experience and work harder to accumulate gold for the next good purchase, and will hopefully teach them something about market values of items in the future.

SincorpDeath · Nov 29, 2005, 03:40 PM // 15:40

I've learned that the best and most satisfying way to give away items is during or after a mission with a decent PuG. I've given away sup. nec runes and other items to newer players that were polite and worked well as a group. Otherwise, i'll just sell my pickups to the merchant.

Damon Windwalker · Nov 29, 2005, 03:45 PM // 15:45

I don't respond to town beggars. However, if I'm in a party (with people actually playing, not just running) I'll help out. Example: In a lower level group the other night, we got to a new town, and one of the guys wanted to get armor. He was short on crafting materials - and since I got plenty, then sure - here ya go.

The people who just hang around town saying "Can someone spare me 1k for new armor" - no - they can go out and get their own gold, just like everyone else does.

Also like Sincorp said - I believe in "Need Before Greed" - I offer things I think might help out teammates during missions/quests.

Loviatar · Nov 29, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48

giver but only to people i know a bit.

i load up with nice (but useless to me) golds/purples and just ask them to open a trade window and fill it up.

they ask how much and i say take it no charge.

wonderful reactions from them well worth 10x the bit of gold i could have gotten.

i tell them that anything THEY cant use feel free to pass on to friends as well.

wont get rich but i am having fun

MSecorsky · Nov 29, 2005, 04:01 PM // 16:01

I like to find lower levels in Ascalon of specific characters for extra items that I have at random. If they'll show me what they're using and are generally good about the whole thing, I'll give them something better if I have it.

Of course, if they're already using a max damage whatever, I'll just thank them for their time and find someone else.

Giver.

Xue Yi Liang · Nov 29, 2005, 04:05 PM // 16:05

What would Sigmund Freud say about a question like that?

I don't know you well enough to answer that.

Dax · Nov 29, 2005, 04:06 PM // 16:06

I'm a heartbreaker, dreamtaker, doncha mess around with me.

what must be a slow day today hhuh? We need chapter 2...stat.

Volarian · Nov 29, 2005, 04:07 PM // 16:07

I'm a little of both

Explanation: I've played the game enough that I can lead pretty much any group through a mission blindfolded provided that there are no "heros" in the group. I've taken my healer many times to higher end missions to help others through them and explained that I'm only there to help so cooperation is a must.
At the same time I've never had the ability so many of you show at figuring out those skill/build combinations that make soloing possible, or the HoH/PvP team builds<--my brain just doesn't work that way. And in those cases I've relied on others generosity of painting the picture.

I don't ever beg and can't stand seeing people shouting "I need new armour can someone please GIVE me 3k". Take it from someone who's been homeless in real life and worked to get myself back into the world............it takes work but it can be done.

Auntie I · Nov 29, 2005, 04:07 PM // 16:07

I help out guildies as much as I can. I'm not rich, and a gold drop is a rare occurance for me. I have had guildies give me things as well. I guess I'm kind of in the middle between giver and taker as far as their concerned.
As far as the general population is concerned, I've never had anyone offer to give me anything. I do give out items from time to time. But not to beggars and never gold. I'll give away an extra weapons mod if I happen to get one. I've given items for collector's (Ancient Eye's, White Mantle Badges etc.) so that the person can get the collector's item they want. I'd give more if I had more, but all that ever seems to drop for me is collector crap. Not even the good stuff that can be turned in for useful items, just the crap. Still I do what I can.
I do try to answer questions in the All Chat channel if I can, again I subscribe to the "Teach a man to fish" philosophy.

blood4blood · Nov 29, 2005, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Giver - to decent people in PUG's, to guildmates when I was in a guild, and always to my wife (she plays too). It just makes sense to me to help the people that are helping you. I don't give things to random people and I never give to beggars, but when I sell I usually sell cheap. (I'll often have the other player make an offer, and if it's reasonable, I'll sell the item for 1/2 of what they offered.)

dont feel no pain · Nov 29, 2005, 04:54 PM // 16:54

<---------Giver

i dont realy know why but i just give give give

eg. in ascalon city and some random guy trys to trade me 70 gold a customized 11-18 hammer (so sad) and a green dye for a nice sword ...soo i give him 10k and a gold sword LOL.

eg2. w/mo at augury tells me "o ye i managed to take 2 hydra the other day"

so i teach him grifon farming and pay for the armor he needs.....

that was before..

now: i give stuff my guildies need (i'm officer of The Master Casters)

taker=nope

DeanBB · Nov 29, 2005, 04:56 PM // 16:56

I give away the good stuff I don't need to guildies and on occassion to random people. Otherwise it is sold to support the cost of gear.

Volcoms Shadow · Nov 29, 2005, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Giver
I used to keep to myself but i have found most of my playing now is UW/FoW or farming/helping guildies(gotta be ready for all the new stuff on Ch2). I have everything i would want in the game atm so I give most everything away. I have a few close out of game freinds that play, they get first dibs but everything else go to guildies then the ascalon kids.

AxeMe · Nov 29, 2005, 06:38 PM // 18:38

I had an experience last night that made me both a giver and a taker. I had a message in game from a former guildy who needed help leveling. So I used my w/mo to take him through a couple of missions. I also gave him a small amount of gold to help him save toward his armor.

Mostly I left my drops for him ... I picked up anything that he wanted and dropped it so he could pick it up. But I did keep one rare drop for myself (a superior absorb). I've finished the game with 5 characters but it was the first time that specific rune has dropped for me. I was especially surprised that it happened at such an early stage of the game.

It made me wonder ... maybe there is a built-in karma counter, hidden somewhere in the software that rewards good deeds, grin.

Sir Skullcrasher · Nov 29, 2005, 06:44 PM // 18:44

I'm both a giver and taker.

I give stuffs like golds, purple, gold, or unwanted items from my storage to people for free. Also i help complete strangers with their missions or quests if i get invited. I take things from guildmates too cuz i admit.. i'm poor and need help. With 3 characters (1 a mesmer, 1 a ele and this one a tank) you need tons of golds to get them well-equiped.

Roza · Nov 30, 2005, 01:55 AM // 01:55

Both giver and taker as well.

I happen to think that being a giver but being happy to receive as well is the best attitude in life. Better than only giving but not wanting to accept (if it is more than mere politeness), only wanting to receive or - worst of all - wanting to neither receive or give.

I have given gold (not that much, as I tend to be rather poor), lots of materials, some weapons. And I have helped people with missions often. I have given mostly to guildies, sometimes to friends outside my guild. And infrequently to strangers. I don't mind people who ask for something (that is not begging). And I have received a couple of very nice weapons.

LiQuId StEeL · Nov 30, 2005, 02:18 AM // 02:18

I used to give a lot, but nobody in my guild needs anything anymore (selective entrance), and I got sick of people asking for more when I've already given them 20k of very sellable items.

sybban · Nov 30, 2005, 02:39 AM // 02:39

The thing about beggars, is they tend to stop begging if you help them out. This may not apply to everyone. Some people are just better at begging to where it seems like only needing a "helping hand". It's still begging. I say, if they speak english pretty well then let em have what they want.

Kool Pajamas · Nov 30, 2005, 02:52 AM // 02:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by sybban

The thing about beggars, is they tend to stop begging if you help them out. This may not apply to everyone. Some people are just better at begging to where it seems like only needing a "helping hand". It's still begging. I say, if they speak english pretty well then let em have what they want.

/BEG

CAN YOU GIVE ME 10K GOLD?? PLEASE!?!?!!?!

j/k